Exclusive Interview : John Demartini Shares a Breakthrough Discovery and Cutting-Edge Personal Transformation Methodology
Dr. John Demartini is a polymath and a world-renowned human behavior expert. His work has been described by students as the “most comprehensive body of work”, “an extensive library of wisdom”. Dr. John Demartini’s mission and vision is to share knowledge and wisdom that empowers you to become a master of your own life and destiny. He’s an internationally published author, a global educator and the founder of the Demartini Method, a revolutionary tool in modern psychology. His education curriculum ranges from personal growth seminars to corporate empowerment programs
“So I know you’ve been practicing yoga for a long time. And I’m into yoga too. Can you share with us the story, the back story of when did you start? I might ask you differently than all those interviewers. Like, when did you start your yoga practice? And what do you get from it?”
“I was at a vim and vigor health food store on the north shore of Oahu, Hawaii. I was 17 years old, and there was a guy that was sitting next to me while I was having some carrot juice and a sandwich. And he said you need to take a yoga class. And I really didn’t know a lot about it. I’d seen some and met some Yogi in Huntington Beach, California. But I really didn’t connect to it yet. And then, literally, I walked out of that health food store; just a few days later, I saw the flyer on the door; it said special guest speaker Paul C. Bragg’s so-and-so yoga class. So the first time I ever went to a yoga class, I was to go and listen to a guest lecturer who’s the one that changed my life and inspired me to do what I’m doing at a yoga class.”
“No way.”
“So that was a yoga class. My life, what I do today, was initiated one night at a yoga class.”
“What did he say that changed your life?”
“I had learning problems as a child. I didn’t read until I was 18.”
“You didn’t read until you were 18?”
“Yeah. I was a high school dropout. I was living on the streets. I was living on the street from 13 on but at 14; I tried to California. 14 and 15, I lived in California and Mexico. Then I turned 15 and went to Hawaii. I was surfing. I was a hippie surfer kid. Street kid. But I almost died right at 17, about 3 to 4 weeks before I went to that health food store, and what he said that night he said, we have a body, we have a mind, we have a soul, and the mind must direct the body, and the soul must guide the mind to maximize your potential. And that’s interesting, and he says we have to take command of our thoughts and use the power of our vision and the power of our statements, and the power of feeling and prioritizing our actions to do what we really love to do that inspires us by the soul. And we want to set goals for ourselves, our family, our community, our city, our state, our nation, our world, and beyond for 100 and 100 years. Nobody talks to me like that. Then this guy was inspired, and he was the one that opened up a thousand health food stores across America to try to raise the consciousness of health and the time. And he did yoga himself, and he was friends with Yogi’s. And you’re speaking in yoga class. And he was up in age; he was 80’s.”
“Oh, really?”
“Yeah. So this one night, this in one hour, this one man got to me, and he took us through this guided imagery meditation experience as my first real formal meditation called an Alpha Meditation. And I saw a vision of what I wanted to do, and it’s painted, and it sits in my office today. It’s a big 5×4 painting by a famous painter. But I saw that I wanted to overcome my learning problems. Learn how to read and someday become intelligent. I never thought I’d be intelligent until then. I thought I’d be a surfer, not that that’s not intelligent. It was just a different skill and academic intelligence. And that night, I thought, I believe I can overcome this. I think I can learn to read and someday become intelligent. And that was the one that turned my life. Absolutely turned my life. And I saw the dream that I’m living today. And that was to learn and research and teach and travel the world.”
“So you went to that yoga class to do the yoga poses like to move?”
“No, just go to the lecture first.”
“That’s the lecture.”
“Just the lecture. Once I got to the lecture, I started to do yoga after meeting the people. And then I started to read these Yoga books and yoga everything. And I then had a yoga teacher about a year later; I was doing yoga on my own without a formal thing, just from a book first. Looking at the pictures, I think I’d do it by the pictures originally. I couldn’t read many words; I just did the pictures. And they had a lot of Sanskrit words anyway. Then I actually got an opportunity to get a job at Ye Seekers Horizon in Houston, Texas. Which is the largest health food store in the world at the time. And there, they had yoga classes and a noted Indian Yogi there. And I started taking formal yoga then. Then I worked with a guy named Doug Swenson. It was another famous Yogi. And I started doing yoga with different yogis. I’m putting my skills, and then I taught yoga. I’m not a master Yogi, but I taught yoga for a long time. And I added another name, Lisa Lyon, who became a yogi. That was another one that used to work with me. We used to do yoga sessions together; just she and I would do it. And then Robert Boustany was another yogi. He was very famous. He’s still doing it, and he’s 70 something now, and he’s still cranking out the yoga as a professor professional yoga teacher. And then I got to meet another Yogi when I was 23 who has had six Ph.D.’s. Extremely Vedantic. Very masterful. Learned so much from these men. And then I met Maharishi Yogi. And I just there was all kinds of Yogi’s along the way that I participated with. But I just did what I could to just to teach yoga and I taught it. Consistently, pretty consistently for starting an 18 or 19 when I was just learning how to do it really and sharing it with the people to ask me to help them. I had this; my first student to teach yoga was a 375-pound Afro-American woman.”
“No way. Wow.”
“I thought I looked at her, and I was okay. If I was, so I was so honored that somebody would ask me to help. I was grateful, and I taught what I did I could. But I taught yoga classes and saw small groups and bigger groups, breathing techniques, meditation techniques yoga till I was in my 40s. And then I started, I didn’t teach it so much occasionally. I would teach a class; I just do it for myself.”
Right. You feel like this is for me. I feel like every 10 years of my life things have changed to a different chapter. I was a professional dancer, a classical dancer from Thailand, and then shifted to yoga. I teach yoga and now that’s shifting and inspiring the work I do with TV and my audience. Writing the book is another example. So do you feel that your life is also unfolding each time this year?
Yes. The night I met Paul Bragg, the teacher at the yoga class, I knew I wanted to be a teacher because I thought intelligence was gained through teaching.
Right. Right.
I dreamed about becoming a philosopher, a healer, or a teacher with a spiritual bent, like a yoga teacher. In November, I will be 49-years old. I’ve been teaching for 48 and a-half years now and I love it. It’s what I do every day – teaching. I’ll teach three seminars today and do two podcasts. And then another one in Japan. So I get to do this all over the world. I’ve spoken in 154 countries now. And I research and write every day. I’m working on a new textbook on philosophy now and I just love it. I get to do what I love every day.
You mentioned the painting of your vision.
Yes.
So what was in that painting?
I’m standing on a balcony, which is what I saw in my mind that night I met Paul Bragg, about 40 feet up over a giant square with a million people in it and I was speaking. I had a speech impediment when I was a child. I was told I would never be able to read, write, or communicate effectively. I thought I would never amount to anything and never go very far in life when I was in elementary school. This is why I dropped out. I couldn’t do it. But I probably had some sort of dissociative identity disorder or split psychosis at this particular moment because I saw this: I had this dream of me standing in front of a million people and in the background there was an iconic building from every major city around the world. The buildings in the background were like a message to reach millions of people across the world. This was the vision. And in the process, I manifested that vision. I’ve reached people in every country around the world today. I’ve reached millions of people. So it’s amazing if you stay with some vision long enough. Everybody else dies out. You end up at the top. You have to stay with it long enough.
Because they quit before you.
They quit or they pass away. A lot of the guys that I’ve known for years are passing on now – the mentors and teachers. I’m 67-years old. They were 20 and 30 years ahead of me, so they’re passing on. It’s my time now. I get to be the guy that is out there.
I hear you. Because when I was in college, when I was 21, I had a dream that I was not only going to be the Thai classical dancer, but also the Indian classical dancer. I wanted to go to India and learn all the movements. I wanted to replace my teacher because he was the only one in Thailand who taught Indian classical dance. He was like 70-years old. I thought I’m going to replace him and I told him that I wanted to go to India. He said, oh, this is very hard. It’s going to be hard, especially for a woman to live in India alone. However, I did. I did everything I planned to do and I came back and I was the only one in the country who taught Indian classical dance.
That’s great.
I hear your vision. I see it in my head right now too. This is amazing.
Well, I was speaking of the vision in Melbourne, Australia about seven or eight years ago. Somebody asked me to share the story of how I do what I do. I shared the story of that vision that I saw that night because it was really a tear-jerking vision. And there was a guy in the audience of about 1200-1400 people, I’m not sure how many. He came up to me at the end, as I was signing books, and said you inspired me with that story. He was teary-eyed. And I said, thank you. He said, I’m a painter. I would be honored if I could paint your vision. I would like to do that as a gift for you. I said, wow, fantastic! He said, I’ll put a sketch together and when you say that sketch matches your vision, I’ll paint it. Well, he sent me a sketch just a few days later and I was blown away. The sketch was the vision. What I had said, is what I saw. He somehow captured it in a sketch. And he went and painted it. It’s just a tear-jerker when I look at it. It sits right in my office as you walk in. It’s the vision that I have for my life.
I want to cry. So the values factor. Can you tell us a little bit about that? I listened to your talk, your books, and you know we all value different things. That’s why we achieve different things. Can you share more with us about that?
Every human being regardless of age, gender, or culture lives moment by moment by a set of priorities, values, and things that are the most and least important in their life. Whatever’s highest on that list is what they’re spontaneously inspired to want to fulfill. As they go down the list, they progressively require extrinsic motivation, external motivation, and incentive. They must push from the outside to get movement. You tend to procrastinate and hesitate on the lower guys. You tend to be disciplined, reliable, and focused on life. So identifying that is what the book entails. Prioritizing your life and giving yourself permission to shine and do what really is deeply meaningful and truly inspiring to you so that you don’t need to be motivated to do it. If you need motivation, you’re not doing what you’re called to do. I don’t need the motivation to do what I do today. You probably don’t need the motivation to do your dancing and teaching. But people many times compare themselves to others, put others on a pedestal, minimize themselves, inject other people’s values into life, envy other people, imitate other people, and lose their own identity and magnificence. And then they wonder why they have a quiet life of desperation versus a life of inspiration. And they identify what those values are. If I just ask somebody what their values are, I guarantee you, I’ve done it thousands of times, rarely does anybody nail it. They write down what they think those values ought to be, should be, are supposed to be, have to be, and must be from somebody else’s outside influence. And they’re fitting in and conforming instead of standing out and being unique.
We all want to make a difference. We can’t make a difference fitting in. We make a difference standing out. So I put together in the book 13 Questions to take a look objectively at what your life demonstrates you’re committed to doing, because your life demonstrates your values. What you say they are and what you’re demonstrating. I ask people, I was in South Africa [and] I had 5,000 people to talk to. And I asked, “How many of you want to be financially independent?” And the place, they’ve all put their hands up, double hands, their feet up in the air, they roared. And I said, “Great. Now, how many of you are financially independent?” And all the hands went down. I said, “Interesting that everybody here has the goal to do that but nobody’s doing it.”
There’s a conflict between what you say you want and what you’re doing. And I said, let me explain why. And I had to pull out a piece of paper and I said, “I’m going to give you $10 million, each one of you. Okay? And you’re going to take on that piece of paper. You have one minute, 60 seconds to tell me the 10 things you would do if I handed you $10 million. If I transferred it to your account, you have $10 million. What would you do if you had $10 million right now? On your mark, get set, go. I want you to write down the 10 things you would do quickly, go.” And they’re quickly writing down, right down there with you if they had $10 million.
Oh wow.
And then I said “Stop, then hand it to the person on your left and calculate how much of that money is still usable assets earning them income versus how much was spent on depreciating consumables.” 20% to 80% was gone in one minute on consumables. I’ll buy that car. I’ll get that house. I’ll get those new clothes, I’ll get that. It was all about consumables and the lifestyle of the rich and famous instead of wealth building. See, people who actually have a value on wealth building buy assets. They buy things that go up in value, and people who have a low value on wealth building buy things that go down in value. It’s pretty simple.
And so what people do is they think they want to be financially independent, but what they really want is immediate gratifying consumables that depreciate surrounding them to live by carelessly to other people’s brands to make them feel better about themselves so they can keep up with the Joneses instead of actually being wealthy. And so I woke them up, and I said your hierarchy of values dictates your financial destiny. If you don’t have a higher value on buying an asset over a consumable that depreciates every time you get the money, it’s going to go away. You’re going to give it to other people’s hands and it’s not going to work for you. You’re going to be a slave to money instead of its master. And so that’s why you’re identifying what’s really valuable to you. I’m just using that as an example because it could be.
I have people who say “I want to grow a business,” but no matter what they do, they can’t seem to get that thing because they’re taking care of their kids or they’ve got too many social engagements or whatever. It’s not really the highest of their values. So what I do is I find out what’s really highest of an individual’s values so they can set goals that they’ll live by, that they’ll achieve. Build momentum and build a sense of legacy by doing that. Which actually, when they’re congruent with that, that’s when they actually become wealthy too.
So is it to be just one value, one goal or you can have, can we have it all?
Absolutely. I set out when I was 18 to master my life. It sounded cool, master of life. I want to be a master. It’s like a martial artist. I want to be a master. But I thought, okay, I want to be a master of life, right? That’s sensei or whatever, but I want to be a master. So I defined it. I sat down and wrote it down because Paul Bragg told me to do that. He said to write out what you want. So I said, “Okay, I want to awaken inside me innovative, creative, ingenious, original ideas that serve vast numbers of people.” I wrote that down. I wanted to create a global business that touches people in every country in the world. I wanted to create financial independence where I have at least $50-$100 million. I want to create a global family dynamic. I live on a ship called The World that circumnavigates around the world.
That’s beautiful.
I wanted to go to Thailand and India, many places. I wanted to have a social influence so I started mentoring all those people of power that I’ve met, from celebrities to royalty to leaders and government. I’ve kept at least, almost 3,800 of those people. I wanted to be able to create vital energy. I’m 67, I’ve got more energy than most people and I still get a good 17- to 18-hour day. And I can tell you that it doesn’t stop me, as I want to have a vital body.
And then I wanted to have an inspiring spiritual movement, not a religion – there are plenty of those – but an inspiring spiritual movement that practically people can live by, that can inspire their lives. So that was what I wrote out. They’re all happening. I’m absolutely certain you can do that, but you’re only going to be committed to something that’s really valuable to you. If you meet somebody and you don’t know what their highest value is, you can easily project expectations that don’t match what they value and you’ll be betrayed. It’s not because they’re betraying you; you’re betraying yourself because you have an unrealistic expectation of them to live your values, not their values. But if you know what their values are, you know what you can expect.
And so, what I did is I learned about the methodology, which I mention in the book The Values Factor. How specifically to wake up your genius by linking whatever you’re studying, learning and want to absorb to what you value most. Because the pulvinar nuclei in the thalamus is a gating filtering mechanism that takes in, from all of our reality, every bit of information that helps us fulfill what’s valuable to us. So if we ask, I’ve helped thousands of kids who are struggling in school. All of a sudden, they just wake up and get amazing with their schooling by helping them see how that class is helping them fulfill what they dream about. If they can’t see how they’re going to get their dream in that class, they’re just going to pass the test or they’re going to be bored. But if they can see how it’s going to get them what they dream about, they’ll get engaged and they’ll take in that information and use it.
So it’s asking the quality question of, “How specific is what I’m about to study, learn and read and absorb? How specifically has it helped me fulfill what is most deeply meaningful to me?” What I feel is my mission is that I’m inspired by something that I can’t wait to fulfill. And if I make those links and neuroplastically make those links in the brain, I can absorb anything. I have proven that. I did this at Harvard. I’ve done this at universities. I’ve absolutely proven that in schools and at all ages.
You can also do that at work, you can empower people at work, as a lot of people are not engaged. Nobody goes to work for the sake of the company. They go to work to fulfill what they value most. If they see how the job duties can help them fulfill what they value, they become engaged and they automatically want to go to work and they want to be creative and innovative. Because whatever’s highest on your body, your identity revolves around. And when you go to work and you feel that this is your identity, you feel at your business, and you put way more into it when you feel it’s your business. And when you feel engaged, you don’t want to take a break, you don’t want to get distracted. You’re inspired. And so I show people how to empower their business that way.
When it comes to money, the hierarchy of your values dictate[s] your financial destiny. If you don’t have a value on wealth building, it’s not going to happen. Ninety-nine percent of the population never makes financial independence. Less than 1%, and that’s because [you’re not going and interviewing] … decamillionaires and billionaires. There’s no doubt in my mind, there’s a different set of values than the person that’s impoverished. So I can take and find out what their values are, find out and determine them, and then we can show them how to rearrange it so they can end up having a higher value on wealth building and suddenly see opportunities, make decisions differently, and act and start to have it work for them. And in relationships, whoever you’re in a relationship with, they have a highest value and you have a highest value. If they can’t see how what you’re doing and what you’re dedicated to is fulfilling what they’re dedicated to, they’re going to want to change you, and that undermines the relationship. If you can’t see what they’re dedicated to is fulfilling what you’re dedicated to, you’re going to want to change them, and then you have alternating monologues, no dialogue.
What I do is, I show people how to link values so you can appreciate, love the individual [for] who they are. Everybody wants to be loved and appreciated for [who] they are, not for what you want to make them. So that is empowering a relationship. And then social, if you live by your highest values and you practice the art of delegating all lower party things, you emerge as a leader in your field, guaranteed. You wake up your leadership, and as you do and you build momentum doing that and you value yourself and you live more objectively in the forebrain, you automatically attract people around you that want to see who’s exemplifying that mastery. And you end up as – start hanging out with new people because you’re resonating with them, and physically if you’re living by your highest value and you’re taking whatever symptoms in your body, they’re all just trying to get you authentic. All the symptoms of your body are trying to give you feedback to say you’re not being authentic. And so if you live by your highest values, those symptoms…subside, and that’s a feedback. You don’t want to suppress a symptom or some drug. You want to use the symptom as a guide to living magnificently and inspired. And then what’s different, what is more spiritual than being inspired by what you do every day? Whatever that is. If you’re dedicated to raising a family, that is your spiritual path. If you’re dedicated to yoga, that’s your spiritual path. If you want to climb mountains, that’s your spiritual path. If you want to grow a massive business, that’s your spiritual path. Everything is spiritual. Where is the divine? Not as I describe it, if you don’t want to box it in and go, “It’s only this” or “It’s only that.” It’s all the above, and that gives people the freedom to do it.
So living by your highest value is where you have equanimity and equity, fair exchange, and where you’re most inspired and spontaneously can’t wait to get up and do it.That’s inspiring to people to be around, and you create an inspired movement that way. So I wanted to master my life, and I’m absolutely certain you can empower all of them. No doubt in my mind. Done it with thousands of people, and I’ve certainly done it in my life.
You know, Dr. Demartini, I can tell that you enjoy this so much because you just light up, and the way when you explain, you just have so much energy about it. It’s in you so much. So, 18, right? You get that awakening but throughout from 18 until now, like, I’m pretty sure there must be, like, struggle, there must be challenges. And there must be times that you feel like, “I don’t want to do it.” How do you deal with that?
Well, I don’t have that. What I had, I had a struggle when I was 18, and I tried to go back to school because – I tried to go back. I took a GED, and I guessed and passed. And then tried to go to college at junior college, and you had to have a 72 to 75 to pass. I got a 27. So I realized, “Oh wow.” And then that day when I was driving home, I thought, “There’s no way I’m going to pull this off,” and I was really shaking because I really had this inspired vision, and all of a sudden, this ain’t going to get there. I can’t even pass a test. And I remember crying on the living room floor in my parent’s house. My mom came home from shopping and she saw [me] there, and she said, “What happened, son? What’s wrong?” She hadn’t seen me cry because I left home when I was 13. She said, “What happened?” I said, “I blew the test,” and then I quoted what my first-grade teacher told me in front of my mom: I guess I’ll never be able to read. I’ll never be able to write. Never be able to communicate effectively. Never [nothing]. Never go very far in life. And she just sat down quietly for a second and did what only a mom could do, and then she put her hand on my shoulder and she said, “Son, whether you become a great teacher and philosopher, travel the world like you dream, whether you return back to Hawaii and ride giant waves like you’ve done” – because I rode big waves – “or you return to the streets like you’ve also done in the panhandle, I just want to let you know that your father and I are going to love you no matter what.” When she said that, I needed that, and my hand went into a fist and I said to myself, “I’m going to master this thing called reading. I’m going to master this thing called study. I’m going to master this thing called learning, teaching, and philosophy. And I’m going to do whatever it takes. I’m going to travel whatever distance. I’m going to pay whatever price to give my service of love across this planet. And I’m not going to let any human being on this planet stop me. Not even myself.”
I got up. I hugged my mom. I walked into my room. I got a Funk and Wagnalls’ dictionary out, which I still have… And I started to memorize 30 words a day, spell them, pronounce them and get the meaning of them, put them in a sentence and present those to my mom. And she was a crossword puzzle person. She didn’t have a higher education, but she was a master crossword puzzle [person], and she would make sure that I was flawlessly delivering 30 words a day to her to grow my vocabulary. And I did that every single day. Thirty new words into my vocabulary was strong enough to pass. That was a setback, but that was the catalyst to one of the most inspiring things that were going to happen to me. Now, I’ve had challenges in the sense of getting things done on deadlines. How do I accomplish those things? Sometimes I overextend myself. I put unrealistic time frames on things. But I have not had a wavering in my inspiration to do what I’m doing. I want to be in healing, I want to be teaching, I want to be a philosopher, and I’ve done all those. I still do this. So that doesn’t waver, but sometimes I overextended myself in the sense [that] I put unrealistic expectations to publish a book by an insane time period, or, you know, I did 426 speeches in one year and a thousand interviews, so that’ll tell you, and wrote books during that time. So I was insane in schedule. But I did them, but I had sleepless – I had some sleep deprivation at times because I was committed to getting it done. So, those are the challenges that I faced and also trying to do that and manage a family, ‘cause that’s not easy. There are times when I have family challenges. Now, they all work in my company and help me with it, so it’s… and my daughter’s carrying the torch, so I can’t complain. I’ve been blessed. But you know, and travel issues, sometimes a flight – I’m going to speak somewhere and the flight says, “Well, no, not going to get you there,” and so I have those kinds of things, but those are really the only setbacks.
So when there was no money coming in, what did you tell yourself?
Well, the first. When I first started, and I moved back to Texas, I did various types of jobs to make some money. I read most of the day, and these jobs helped pay for some school. When I was at the University of Houston, I started tutoring, and they didn’t pay much. I didn’t care. I loved the teaching part, and they paid really minimum wage kind of stuff. But I did it anyway. And then I had a work-study program and that would allow me to get through that school. And I worked at my dad’s company. He had a plumbing business, and I was a plumber on weekends. And then I worked during the week tutoring and whatever other things in the dormitories. But when I went to professional school, I started teaching full-time. And there, I wasn’t sure what to charge, and I did love bold donation. Love donation, right?
Yes. It’s a Yogi thing.
I finally said that the minimum donation is, you know, $5. And I think I got a $5 bill in there and then a minimal donation of $10. When I said $20, I got 360 bucks put in there. In this little class one night, I went, oh, the world is waiting for me to value me. If I don’t value me, no one’s gonna value me. And so I put a little $20 thing. I was teaching. I was 23 years old, I put $20 per person, and I’d have 15 to 30 people in a one-bedroom apartment crammed into a place teaching every single night six and seven nights a week. I made over a hundred thousand dollars, and I was 23 years old teaching whatever I was teaching. I’d go to bed at 10:00 after I finished the class. I’d get up at two. I’d do yoga for 30 minutes. I’d speed-read four to seven books because I was speed-reading by then. That night after going to classes in a clinic, I was teaching every single night for three hours, and I taught whatever I read that morning. And there were always students there. I was so blessed to do that. Then I also started other locations, and my speaking career started launching, and then when I got into practice, I started teaching every night, and that spread to the state and then around America and Canada, then over to Europe. And now it’s all over the world.
Wow. How many hours do you sleep?
I slept four hours a night for 35 years.
Really?
Consistently. Today I sleep more. I’m five and a half, six and a half, around that area. I’m getting up – I guess when you’re in your 60s, it’s a little bit different. Particularly when I’m doing times like right now, I’m doing time zones. I just finished a program in Australia yesterday. And then I’m doing a different time zone today. So I’m sometimes all over the planet in different time zones. And strange hours at 3:00 in the morning, 5:00 in the morning and whatever. And so sometimes my sleep patterns are a little odd.
Wow. Thank you so much for sharing such a great example. So you take action. You’re not just waiting for your vision to come true. What about the law of attraction?
Well, the Law of Attraction really is about values. Because if you set a goal that’s not really high in your values, you don’t see a lot of the synchronicities happening. But if you really have something that’s deeply meaningful, that’s really inspiring and you set a goal that’s matching it, you automatically think about it, you automatically see it in your mind’s eye.
See, we have a medial prefrontal cortex, which is called the executive center in the tele-encephalon the forebrain. And any time we set a goal that matches our highest value, that area lights up and gets blood, glucose, and oxygen. And that area of the brain has fibers that go into the visual cortex and allow you to see the vision. It also has the area in the frontal and the parietal area that allows you to mitigate risk and strategically plan. It also has an area too, the associate motor area, that goes to make sure you take action and also sends information down into the amygdala and calms down distractions. So there’re not impulses and instincts running it. And you’re centered and focused and it also wakes up the diencephalon, except the gating area, which we call the gating filtering mechanism of the pulvinar nuclear of the thalamus, and that allows you to perceive everything that relates to what you’re focusing on. Like a mother, if her highest value is her children, let’s say, and she’s got three children under the age of five, and she’s 35 years old, and her whole focus is those beautiful children. If she walks in a mall, she’s going to see children’s clothes, children’s entertainment, children’s healthy items. She’s going to filter everything or not notice anything except children’s stuff, and she will spot it. And if you’re a man and you’re in your dedicated entrepreneurship or a woman dedicated entrepreneurship and your business and your whole focus is business. You walk in that mall, you’re not going to see children’s clothes.
You’re going to see computers and suits. You’re going to see a completely different mall. Everybody’s got a different reality according to their value filter. So if you set a goal that’s aligned with your highest values, the law of attraction, the secret, comes alive because not only do you see things and opportunities, you’re able to make decisions because you’re gathering data quicker and you’re spontaneously acting on it, which increases the odds of it and because of that, you’re enthused and inspired, which magnetizes people that are engaged in what they see you doing, so they want to participate. And so you synchronize people into your life because you’re inspired.
When you’re inspired by something, you’re on fire. People come around and watch it burn and they want to be around and be part of that, and then you synchronize people to assist you on that and you see resources and you’re more energized and all those who grow the business and also, you know, there’s a metaphysical or quantum possible vibratory system that’s there when you’re really clear and focused on it. Anything that resonates with that thing, you just tend to see and attract into your life. I’ve seen it over and over again.
I did a research study on inactive patients for over a thousand doctor’s offices that I consulted with. And we showed that if you read the files of 100 inactive patients that have not been in your office for at least six months, 20 of those files will be in that office within a week. Consistently that stat showed up just by reading the files and thinking about the person and thinking about what their health was and just in your mind. You don’t call them. You don’t do anything. They just, show back up again. It’s quite interesting.
I do that in business and to help businesses. Because I had a guy in Chicago, he was seeing a certain number of patients a day and I asked him a simple question. I said, I want you to make a name, a list, a name of the patient, and the second you do it then go to the next patient’s name and keep listing patients’ names until you can’t think of any more names. I’m going to time you and we’re going to see how it does and any time you have three seconds between names, I’m going to stop you. And he starts rattling off names. And he came to 68 names and then all of a sudden he paused. I asked how many days of work a week, do you work? He says, I work four days a week. 4 times 68 is roughly how much? 4 times 60 is 240. 4 times 8 is 32, that’s 272. I said you’re averaging about 275 patients a week, and he goes, that’s unbelievable. That’s the stat. That’s what I’m averaging. That’s because whatever’s out of your mind and out of sight in your mind, you’re not seeing. I said, here’s your homework tonight, before I come in your office tomorrow to do consulting, I want you to memorize the names. In addition to those, I want you to memorize another 100 names. And have those ready, and I guarantee it’ll blow your mind if you do that tomorrow because you just memorize these hundred names and be able to recite them the first thing when I see you tomorrow, you’re going to recite 100 new names that are out of your patient files. He goes, okay, I can do that. Of those hundred names, four of those names showed up that day because whatever you think about, you bring about. I always say, if you can’t wait to see your patients, people can’t wait to get your service. If you can’t wait to go and do what you love to do, the world can’t wait to give it to you. It’s a reflection of what your innermost dominant thought is no doubt about it.
And it’s plenty for everyone. Right?
There’s enough. There’s no lack of anything for anybody. It’s just a matter of simply taking command and following the principles that stand the test of time. There’s another sequel to “The Secret” called, “How Thoughts Become Things” that Douglas Vermeeren created, and he’s got another movie. He’s asked me to do it. But that’s also a carry-on from that, and it’s a little bit more action and a little bit more thinking oriented but it’s a carryover from “The Secret.” Well done.
One last question. What is the exciting new project that you’re working on right now?
Well, there are a number of them. One of them I’m working on, I’ll be finished in October with a brand-new large textbook on philosophers. I got philosophers from around the world and I’m summarizing a little of their biographies and summarizing some of the highest principles and teachings. And I’m doing a presentation – probably in three locations around the world – for advanced students on just that; it’ll be a five-day experience. A couple hundred philosophers and what’s the essence of their teachings that have stood the test of time for centuries and we’re just going to feed our minds for five days on some of the greatest ideas that have been passed down from the greatest minds through the ages.
So, that’s one project, and I just met up with a billionaire who owns an island out in the Caribbean. And he wants me to be part of his little club that he’s got which is a large number of very wealthy individuals and wants me to do private consulting and troubleshooting for their issues and charge a good fee for it. So, that’s a project that’s just in the making. Then I’ve been asked in India to be involved in one of those India’s Got Talent judges. So that’s another project.
So, I’ve got projects coming out left and right all over the place with things I’m working on. But I’m constantly researching every day. I’m about to start a 10-day program starting tomorrow. I teach starting at 8:00 in the morning which will be on science, religion, and philosophies of the world. So that’s a 144-hour program for 10 days. Just 14 hours a day, we go down the rabbit hole, so we’re going to study every imaginable thing and explore the universe. The purpose of it is to give people astronomical visions so they can do something extraordinary.
This is very fun. I can feel that fun energy from you, so much. I feel like this is a limited world that we live in. Well, thank you so much, Dr. John Demartini. I love you and am grateful for you. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you.
No, thank you for the invitation, and thank you for the interview and lovely questions. And as a fellow Yogi, may we have the union of our own conscious and unconscious mind so we can be fully conscious and illuminate by our example.
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